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Post by Site Admin on May 4, 2009 23:58:52 GMT 1
Do you think that humane dispatch should be taught on some of the mainstream courses?
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Post by matt the rat on May 5, 2009 22:52:03 GMT 1
I've voted no because I think it should be a seperate full day at the least.
You wouldn't condone people using a/c rodenticides without them understanding how they work and how to use them properly, so why would anyone believe that humane dispatch of pest species which have been trapped is not important enough?
It takes very little skill to lay baits to the average standard, and quite a bit to kill an animal safely and humanely.
People who use traps should fully understand their responsibilities BEFORE they consider setting them.
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Post by dogs4jobs on May 7, 2009 19:22:30 GMT 1
ive voted yes, as it would add a very important aspect to the course, which is missing.
As matt says, it could be a course on its own, but if it were, would everyone want to sit an extra course....? better off bundling it into the general course, as it would then be learnt by more amateur pesties going through the training.. imo.
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Post by bignoel on Jun 5, 2009 7:52:52 GMT 1
i voted yes as not all lads entering the pest bussiness are country way lads and to be fair to quarry a quick dispatch is needed .noel
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Post by Phil on Jun 5, 2009 8:43:23 GMT 1
My vote is yes.
All pest controllers should have a basic understanding of CURRENT CORRECT METHODS of humane dispatch.
These methods are in place to reduce the stress and implement the neccesary action for a 100% humane adjustment for any target species.
The worlds eyes are always fixed on the way we operate and the action of dispatching an animal is always a cause for emotional disruption for a third party albiet whether they are involved as a client, employee of the client and or other interested parties!
The whole procedure is to ensure the the terminating of a life irrespective it is from a Deer to a small mouse , respect and dignity should be to the target species is paramount, pest controllers are judged by what people see and percieve.
if we cannot get it right, someone will instruct us, how it will be carried out.
At the end of the day it is down to us to have a constructive attitude to this final act, levels of training would be a great asset to professional pest control and the way our work is seen by others should be competant and professional.
ATB
Phil
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Post by cumbria wildlife managment on Jun 5, 2009 11:08:35 GMT 1
I Voted Yes As I'm New To Professional Pest Control
As An Armature Iv Always Use The Most Humain Way.
I Know.
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Post by stubby on Mar 31, 2010 1:50:04 GMT 1
Id vote YES, as a few years ago, when our firm was called "predator" we had a rabbit live catch job running for the underground on around 2 miles of track, I had the job of removing rabbits for a two week period, before another tech took over, after a week, I asked him if he was taking the rabbits home, or putting them in the incinorator, as if it was the latter, I would have them, he replied, as he did'nt know how to dispatch a rabbit, he had simply been letting them go
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Post by mejano on May 25, 2010 13:49:14 GMT 1
I agree - There is a lot off other practical bits missing from courses but, I'm sure the courses will evolve to incorporate such elements.
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Post by tbf on May 25, 2010 15:16:53 GMT 1
I have voted no, because: I feel that anyone who wants to be a pest controller should have a healthy respect for all wildlife and should be passionate about the job at hand. IF, they do not already know how to humanely kill an animal that has been trapped (i assume we are talking about cage traps) then, in my opinion, they are not ready be let loose with traps that they have little or no understanding about! With regards to spring traps (kill traps) if they are not confident in setting them, or they are not confident that the trap will kill the animal, again they should not be setting them.
These are living, breathing creatures we are talking about, not some science experiment...
Its all very well to say "you got to learn somewhere", and yes, i agree that you do have to start somewhere, but that should be out in the field with someone who is experienced and competent that can show you in real life how to deal with such matters, NOT in some classroom.
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Post by wayner on May 25, 2010 20:11:07 GMT 1
TBF a good answer, I cant see how this would be covered in a classroom situation?
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Post by matt the rat on May 25, 2010 23:09:10 GMT 1
I think that the majority of 'rural' pest controllers have had more exposure to killing things, and therefore find it less of a problem.
I'm often frustrated and surprised at the lack of knowledge shown by some about what is a very sensitive area of our work.
As some of you know, in a previous life I worked for a government department (it was still a 'ministry' then) trapping and dispatching large animals.
As with all things 'government' you had to have the right piece of paper before you could actually do the job. The training consisted of:
4 days gun safety training and range work A safety test at our own range
and if you passed both parts, you were given a 'provisional' ticket.
The final part of the test was to dispatch 3 animals in the presence of a vet or scientific officer. If you got it right, you were passed, if you didn't get it quite right you had to do another 3, and if you fecked right up you had to do the whole lot again.
This training was based mainly around firearm safety, but also included basic anatomy, and how to check that the animal you are dispatching was actually dead (which is one of the most important parts).
We also had to learn how to take certain samples.
How is this, or could this be relevant to the pest control industry?
Well, personally, having read of pest controllers using air rifles to dispatch cage trapped rabbits, and phostoxin chucked in a bucket to kill cage trapped rats, I think that for anyone calling themselves a professional pest controller to have to demonstrate that they know how to humanely and safely dispatch a pest, and then check that it is actually dead is not all that unreasonable.
Yes, I agree that you couldn't learn how to do it in a classroom, but you could learn how not to do it, and get a basic understanding of the important requirements.
You cannot beat practical field experience, and I've shown a few people the realities of the job, and would happily do so again.
What I won't do, is to sit back and allow untrained, unskilled, unsuitable people to give all pest controllers a bad name.
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Post by pestgo on Jun 27, 2010 15:13:17 GMT 1
What is the correct spelling, Is it:-
1) Dispatch
or
2) Despatch
;D
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Post by bignoel on Jun 28, 2011 6:13:33 GMT 1
TBF a good answer, I cant see how this would be covered in a classroom situation? maybe pellet placement from pistol or air rifle . neck pulling on pigeons etc
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Post by nod on Jun 28, 2011 20:26:32 GMT 1
all pests mammels can be dispatched without the need of a gun, apart from fox, for birds i simply hold them in left hand and twist the head round till it goes full lock, then a lttle more you can feel the neck break and the birds dont flap feather every where and you dont pull the heads off, rabbits simply hand in the cage pick up by the backof the neck other hand pushes head back sharply, neck is gone. squirrels in cages is the sack and whack method, put hesian sack over cage entrance, turn cage over so it can run into sack, push to the bottom of sack with foot and whack, no blood tainting the cage.
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Post by mallet on Jun 29, 2011 20:56:31 GMT 1
You've got it wrong there Nod. You are allowed to kill the fox with a priest or baseball bat, whatever. In a snare or net it is legal to cull this way, if you have the balls, catch-a-live traps as well.
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